We talked about this one and I guess the conclusion is that you can't really save anyone. All saving is self-saving. All help is self help. All influence is self-influence and all control is self control. We don't "get" people to do things. They either do them or they don't based on their own belief systems, rationales and the choices they make out of those belief systems and rationales...so where ever you are and whatever you are doing stop trying to rescue others.